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		<title>By: ETF Rewind Pro &#8211; 02.04.10</title>
		<link>http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/#comment-4808</link>
		<dc:creator>ETF Rewind Pro &#8211; 02.04.10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 17:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: S&#38;P500 and VIX Consensus at Extremes &#124; Financial engineering resource center</title>
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		<dc:creator>S&#38;P500 and VIX Consensus at Extremes &#124; Financial engineering resource center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] catching up on my nightly reading I noticed the following post by Frank of Trading the Odds: http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/  In this post, Frank presents his standard approach to measuring the edge of a given setup. He [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] catching up on my nightly reading I noticed the following post by Frank of Trading the Odds: <a href="http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/ " rel="nofollow">http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/ </a> In this post, Frank presents his standard approach to measuring the edge of a given setup. He [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TradingTheOdds</title>
		<link>http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/#comment-4199</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

why &#039;remain&#039; SHORT today (Friday&#039;s position was LONG) ?

A recovery day regularly does not show a positive follow-through on the then following day. When the SPY posted an intraday low at least -1.75% below the previous session&#039;s low (Friday&#039;s low was -1.7475%) but closed positive on the day, the SPY closed lower next day on 28, but higher on only 13 out of a total of 41 occurrences since 1990 (w/ median trade of -0.79%). Out of those 41 occurrences, the SPY posted at least one lower close than the trigger day&#039;s close (Friday&#039;s close) on 39 out of 41 occurrences (95.12%) occurrences, significantly higher than the at-any-time probability of 71.44% for at least one lower close over the course of the then following five sessions.

So sellers will probably take the upper hand again eventually during the next week.

Best,
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>why &#8216;remain&#8217; SHORT today (Friday&#8217;s position was LONG) ?</p>
<p>A recovery day regularly does not show a positive follow-through on the then following day. When the SPY posted an intraday low at least -1.75% below the previous session&#8217;s low (Friday&#8217;s low was -1.7475%) but closed positive on the day, the SPY closed lower next day on 28, but higher on only 13 out of a total of 41 occurrences since 1990 (w/ median trade of -0.79%). Out of those 41 occurrences, the SPY posted at least one lower close than the trigger day&#8217;s close (Friday&#8217;s close) on 39 out of 41 occurrences (95.12%) occurrences, significantly higher than the at-any-time probability of 71.44% for at least one lower close over the course of the then following five sessions.</p>
<p>So sellers will probably take the upper hand again eventually during the next week.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: CarlosR</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarlosR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 04:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

Congratulations on another great call regarding the last hour!

That was so spot-on that it was almost spooky... I noticed the ES futures started rising about 1 minute into that last hour.  Doesn&#039;t get any better than that!

Thanks for all your hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Congratulations on another great call regarding the last hour!</p>
<p>That was so spot-on that it was almost spooky&#8230; I noticed the ES futures started rising about 1 minute into that last hour.  Doesn&#8217;t get any better than that!</p>
<p>Thanks for all your hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank,

What prompted you too remain shot today, looking at the huge recovery we had from intraday low didn&#039;t it change you inclination to go long.

thanks for your work

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank,</p>
<p>What prompted you too remain shot today, looking at the huge recovery we had from intraday low didn&#8217;t it change you inclination to go long.</p>
<p>thanks for your work</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Le news di oggi - Pagina 11 - I Forum di Investireoggi</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: S&#38;P500 and VIX Consensus at Extremes &#171; CSS Analytics</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  While catching up on my nightly reading I noticed the following post by Frank of Trading the Odds: http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/  In this post, Frank presents his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  While catching up on my nightly reading I noticed the following post by Frank of Trading the Odds: <a href="http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/ " rel="nofollow">http://www.tradingtheodds.com/2010/02/vix-surges-20-as-fear-returns/ </a> In this post, Frank presents his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TradingTheOdds</title>
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		<dc:creator>TradingTheOdds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Predatorsetup,

thanks for pointing this out.

If two contradictory setups are triggered (like the short-term mean reversion VIX &gt; +20% and a trend-following pre-BLS release down move), the market model -if in doubt- would regularly take the short side of the market (due to the fact that not ALL necessary buy setups are triggered), but there are some setups (like the VIX &gt; +20% setup) which have absolutley priority, or the otherway around: historically especially the odds (going again a positive profit factor of &gt;+5, and no potential gain &gt; +0.51% on the short side out of the last 32 occurrences)  would -under no circumstances- favor taking a short position.

Best,
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predatorsetup,</p>
<p>thanks for pointing this out.</p>
<p>If two contradictory setups are triggered (like the short-term mean reversion VIX &gt; +20% and a trend-following pre-BLS release down move), the market model -if in doubt- would regularly take the short side of the market (due to the fact that not ALL necessary buy setups are triggered), but there are some setups (like the VIX &gt; +20% setup) which have absolutley priority, or the otherway around: historically especially the odds (going again a positive profit factor of &gt;+5, and no potential gain &gt; +0.51% on the short side out of the last 32 occurrences)  would -under no circumstances- favor taking a short position.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Phantasmix Stock Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; $$ VIX Up 20% = Up Day Tomorrow</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Predatorsetup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Predatorsetup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Frank,

tomorrow is BLS day and today ES1 closed down, in a previous post you highlighted the short term trend following of this setup...how would you choose the main pattern? today´s post or the previous one?

Thanks in advance,

Predator</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Frank,</p>
<p>tomorrow is BLS day and today ES1 closed down, in a previous post you highlighted the short term trend following of this setup&#8230;how would you choose the main pattern? today´s post or the previous one?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance,</p>
<p>Predator</p>
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